ma einai toso passive to play toy sporic pou pragmatika oi qq einai poli kala krimenes kai ena flat call mporei na einai aneta aj,at,a9,qk(idika me to bet sto turn),QJs,kai ta bet tou to idio passive gia klepsimo toy pot(1/3 KAI 1/2) an se vazei se kapio zeygos mexri jj,alla an exo ipopsia gia aa kai kaneis passive flat tis qq check,CKECK turn, kai ante na pareis pot bet 44k river pou eisai call kai as xaseis, kai pragamtika apo ikano agress vs passive bb akoma kai oi kk den einai apithano piesoun etsi ( an kai den to pistevo me tetio play olo to hand)