Μπορω να το αποφυγω;

[holdemgr]

Ο αντιπαλος είναι απο τους regular στο heads up 2/4 και αρα μαλλον αρκετά καλος. Μεχρι τωρα παιζουμε επιθετικα preflop με πολλα raise και reraise αλλά παντα κάποιος κανει fold

Τι κανουμε εδώ όταν μπαινει all-in; Τι range έχει;

Texas Hold'em $4-$8 NL (real money), hand #P4-65342296-61

Table Remich, 13 Apr 2008 4:33 PM ET

Seat 8: UllaGull ($463.00 in chips)

Seat 9: holdem_gr :Jh :Jd ($753.60 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS

holdem_gr posts blind ($2), UllaGull posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP

holdem_gr bets $12, UllaGull bets $45, holdem_gr bets $133, UllaGull bets $414 and is all-in

[doctor636]

Iparxi ena mperdema gia to an to trapezi einai 2-4 i 4-8. Theoro oti einai 4-8 apo to max buy-in pou logika tha einai 100BB.

Opote se pot 612 exeis na valeis akomi 314 gia all-in. Ara mpeneis akomi kai an eisai piso 33,9%.

To range tou (logika) se sxesi me esena:

50% exei Overpair(QQ-KK-AA): eisai piso me 19-21%

35% exei AK suited- AK off - AQ suited: eisai mprosta apo 54% eos 57%

15% exei 1010-99: eisai mprosta 81%

Na sou thimiso fisika pos den einai kapio megalo tournoua alla cash game. Episis pera apo tin agorastiki dinami tou xrimatos pou einai dedomeni, to xrima exei diaforetiki aksia gia ton kathena mas.

[holdemgr]

doctor636 έγραψε:

Iparxi ena mperdema gia to an to trapezi einai 2-4 i 4-8. Theoro oti einai 4-8 apo to max buy-in pou logika tha einai 100BB.

Einai 2/4. To pokertracker t'allazei gia kapoio logo. Ola t'alla einai swsta omws (stacks, bet sizes klp)

Opote se pot 612 exeis na valeis akomi 314 gia all-in. Ara mpeneis akomi kai an eisai piso 33,9%.

To range tou (logika) se sxesi me esena:

50% exei Overpair(QQ-KK-AA): eisai piso me 19-21%

35% exei AK suited- AK off - AQ suited: eisai mprosta apo 54% eos 57%

15% exei 1010-99: eisai mprosta 81%

Call dhladh?

Na sou thimiso fisika pos den einai kapio megalo tournoua alla cash game. Episis pera apo tin agorastiki dinami tou xrimatos pou einai dedomeni, to xrima exei diaforetiki aksia gia ton kathena mas.

Edw den katalaba ti ennoeis

[mental]

vasika apla de m'aresei to re raise and de skopeueis na pas all in, stin teliki akoma na mplofare sto re-raise pou sou ekane, mporouse na to sinexisei kai meta, opote imo itan call kai meta evlepes...

[holdemgr]

To reraise mou exei arketous logous.

Enas apo aytous einai kai giati pistevw oti tha kanei all-in me arketes mplofes

[antreas_z]

tote gt rwtas an mporeis na to apofigeis afou stoxos sou itan na mpei all in?

[dj_rathas]

RE-RAISE DEN KANOUME GIA PLAKA KAI OUTE ME 7 3...OTAN EXEIS KALO HAND...

APO TH STIGMH POU KANEIS TETOIO RE RAISE EISAI DIATETHIMENOS NA TA VALEIS OLA SOU TA LEFTA STO POT......SIGOURO CALL DLD!!!!

MI PARASURESAI APO TO PAIXNIDI TON ALLON!!!

EPEIDH KLEVOUN OI ALLOI SUNEXOS DE SHMAINEI OTI THA TO KANEIS KAI SU AN DEN EXEIS KAPOIO KALO XERI POU THELEIS NA TO PAIKSEIS...EINAI XAZO!!!!

[arourel]

apo th stigmh pou les oti ginetai raise re raise kai fold me th tha mporouse na sou kanei

2o reraise?? pistevw oti to range tou einai:

AKs ,TT ,JJ ,QQ ,KK ,AA

TT kai JJ sxedon ta apokleiw ....

mallon fold eisai....

[holdemgr]

antreas_z έγραψε:

tote gt rwtas an mporeis na to apofigeis afou stoxos sou itan na mpei all in?

Ekana copy ton titlo apo to thread me to AK

Telos pantwn ekana instacall. Eixe 57o. To JJ mou antekse.

[holdemgr]

dj_rathas έγραψε:

RE-RAISE DEN KANOUME GIA PLAKA KAI OUTE ME 7 3...OTAN EXEIS KALO HAND...

APO TH STIGMH POU KANEIS TETOIO RE RAISE EISAI DIATETHIMENOS NA TA VALEIS OLA SOU TA LEFTA STO POT......

Den kanw reraise gia plaka alla polles fores tha exw air pou anagkastika tha kanw fold se all-in

[cip1974]

All in μπορεί να σε πάει και σαν semi bluff με +1010,+AQs,+AKo.

Eαν είναι όπως λες ο κλασσικός hu τύπος είσαι μπροστά 4/8 ισοπαλία 1/8 και πίσω 3/8 άρα είναι call.

[dj_rathas]

FILTATE HOLDEM ESU SIGOURA ISOUN STO TRAPEZI KAI KSEREIS POTE THA KLEPSEIS AN TO TRAPEZI EINAI EPITHETIKO,,,,

APLA PISTEUO OTI TETOIOUS ANTIPALOUS PREPEI NA TOUS PAIZEIS PANTA ME KALO FULLO...

KAI SOU EIPA TO EKSIS PRIN :MI PARASURESAI APO TO PAIXNIDI TON ALLON...MPOREI NA PERASOUN 3 FORES TA BLINDS APO PANO SOU KAI NA MI MPOREIS NA KANEIS TIPOTA....

THELEI UPOMONH...TETOIOI PAIXTES THA SE PLIROSOUN KALA OPOS KAI EGINE...

[dj_rathas]

AROUREL SIGOURO CALL EINAI...ANTE MI TA PARO TORA!!!!HAHAHA!!!!EISAI TRELOS PSIXOLOGOS PANTOS!!!!MOU TA PLIROSES KALA TA XROMATAKIA MOU PROXTES!!!!!!!

[ToNy]

προς υπερασπιση του αρουρελ ειχε 4-1 ποτ οντς :P:P

οποτε μακροχρονια μπορεις να το πεις κερδοφορο καλλ

:P :P