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pavlo thelw k egw na parakolouthw deep runs s..mesw skype dineis..?

pantws A4o einai 56% favorite apenanti se any 2 cards..dld me antestramena bubble factors an eixa 22 sto bb k m ekane all in apo sb th itan swsto na kanw call? tespa den kserw isws eimai tsantismenos k de mporw na dw antikeimenika tin partida...

to A4o omws de einai monster..opote de mporw na ktlvw to limp/call t.pistevw pws kapoios p exei epignwsi tou icm ekei th kanei passo. edit:to shove m to thewreis swsto omws..?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 5.5 Tournament, 8000/16000 Blinds 2000 Ante (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Hero (BB) (t186143) UTG (t142874) MP (t173226) CO (t300578) Button (t348454) SB (t456725) Hero's M: 5.17 Preflop: Hero is BB with J, 7 4 folds, SB calls t8000, Hero bets t184143 (All-In), SB calls t168143 Flop: (t380286) 8, 6, K(2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: (t380286) 2(2 players, 1 all-in) River: (t380286) 5(2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: t380286 prin 5 lepta egine k pragmatika den kserw an viastika na to karfwsw... na pw pws itan i 1h fora p imastan blinds kathws molis eixe apokleistei o endiamesos antipalos.. epishs exw deiksei mono ena fullo se all in pou itan JJ

Tony_Montana έγραψε: auto den einai kalo g mas...autoi einai p exoun kati Ax x->0 otan kanoun limp call preflop...

pavlo m fainetai panw katw idia periptwsi me auti p sizitagame sto allo forum...nomizw check behind flop...etsi opws pige chb turn k call river...

ok pame ksana..xaxa..tote sumfwnw me value bet st river mono AdQd,KdQd k JQ th mporouse na exei to opoi eftase ekei.. to range t ekei exei arketa pp<JJ+KJs,J10s+isws 78(nomizw mporei na einai st 3bet range t den eimai sigouros)

egw pistevw check behind...einai polu pithano na xtyphse sto river me KQ,AQ eite na exei QQ,KK,AA k pistevei pws an 3barellarei th petakseis+paei g bluff catch apo missed flush draws...antitheta de vlepw na se callarei me kati xeirotero an pontareis...

orfeasorfeas έγραψε: orfea to google pantws einai dwrean...grafeis ti leksoula p den gnwrizeis k sti vgazei amesws..mi thes mashmenh trofh...

re mages erwthsh...tsekarete pote KQ sti thesi t button sto flop...? den kserw an to xe aplws nomizw oti th pontara sigoura flop me KQ

nomizw k egw oti th ekana shove preflop... o cutoff mporei aneta na exei ena stealing hand enw o button logika logw twn megalwn stacks p exoun th pigaine se 3bet me ta kala t xeria. postflop turn protimw to lead bet kathws uparxoun para polla fulla ap ta opoia pairneis value k fovasai mono to KQ to opoio pistevw an imoun sti thesi t villain th eixa pontarei ap to flop kathws exei terastio equity+mporei na parei to pot epi topou ustera apo 2 check...opote nomizw duskola vrisketai sto range t...

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kakos paiktis p skorpaei markes me oti auto sunepagetai..den ton exoume ksanadei se tetoia katastasi

την παρτιδα την επαιξα σε αλλο υπολογιστη για αυτο και δεν εχω hand history. εχουμε απομεινει 18 ατομα σε 2.20 buy in τουρνουα. blinds 500/1000,ante 100 εχω 66αρια στο bb και 13.500 stack ο utg+2 κανει raise στις 2.500 με συνολικο stack γυρω στις 20.000 στο cutoff κανει call ο chipleader του τραπεζιου ενας κακος παικτης θα ελεγα. και η δραση φτανει σε μας. to push or not to push...? δεν εχω αλλα στοιχεια για τους παικτες καθως δε χρησιμοποιω καποιο προγραμμα...

kati me xalaei ston tropo p exei pontarei g na ton pistepsw...gt n shovarei etsi akompsa to turn...? den nomizw pws mporw na petaksw AQ ekei efoson exw kanei call pre...g auto akrivws to flop elpizw otan kanw call... opote call k gg ama exei AK...

agreed..aplws to history tous mporei na proerxetai apo maxes se late positions p einai alla ta ranges...g auto rwthsa an anoigei light apo utg..

TOREADOR έγραψε: ?????? sorry de pianw ton syllogismo sou ,anelyse an thes .[/quote:1jy9db0o] nai vasika an pistevei pws kanoume light opening ap auti ti thesi th mas kanei pio polla light 3bet ara to xeri mas th vrisketai arketa mprosta ap to light 3bet range tou..

xwris na mporw na dwsw polu kali apopsi g tetoia stakes to an th shovareis pre exei na kanei me tin eikona p exei autos g sena...pisteveis pws se exei ikano g light anoigmata apo utg an nai tote mallon einai shove...

an k sumfwnw sti geniki prosegissi tou mikrou bet se multi way pot edw an pontareis meta to preflop action den kaneis tpt allo represent ektos apo AK efoson KK,QQ,JJ, ta kaneis logika check behind.. opote den uparxei logos na min pontareis perissotero gt call th se kanoun Ax,33 k flush draws... opote kalutera megalutero bet g na xrewseis ta flush draws afou etsi ki alliws ta alla 2 den passaroun... opws paixtike mallon pio swsto einai to passo..kerdizoume mono ta Ax(plin A6,A3,A4) k mplofes

thewrw pws o antipalos kserei pws kata pasa pithanotita exeis weak holding gt me Jx i kalutero se tetoio board mallon th pigaines g check raise mias k einai polu epifovo na mi gineis outdrawn...opote gia na arkeisai sto check call mallon se vazei se auto p exeis k prospathei na se kanei na to petakseis...

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 120/240 Blinds (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com MP3 (t7450) Hero (CO) (t10855) Button (t8280) SB (t3940) BB (t11280) UTG (t23515) UTG+1 (t7235) MP1 (t2410) MP2 (t14198) Hero's M: 30.15 Preflop: Hero is CO with A, 5 5 folds, Hero bets t555, 2 folds, BB raises t960, Hero calls t645 Flop: (t2520) A, 7, 10(2 players) BB checks, Hero bets t1899, BB calls t1899 Turn: (t6318) 2(2 players) BB checks, Hero bets t7731, 1 fold Total pot: t6318 Results below: Hero had A, 5. Outcome: Hero won t6543 oi skepseis mou kata ti diarkeia tis partidas: no reads g ton antipalo... preflop kanw raise me ena kalo stealing hand apo late position to bb kanei 3bet k kanw call kuriws logw tou oti einai arketa mikro k eimaste k oi 2 arketa deep... sto flop tsekarei k exontas ena dream flop kanw logika bet etoimos na ta valw se opoiodipote check raise. st turn mallon panikovlithika k lew as ta valw k oti ginei... thewrw pws eexw sigoura 2 lathh stin partida ta opoia th anaferw afou akousw merikes apopseis an k fantazomai th ta episimanete prwtoi..

nomizw einai para polla ta bb p exoume g reshove...kalutera 3bet stis 15.000...

re mages g tsekarete ligo... an upothesoume oti kanei raise me A10-AK,p10s-AA(thewrw swsti proseggisi k oligon loose g nit) k mas callarei se all in AK,JJ-AA(isws oxi me JJ) tote prokeitai g arxiko 7% range k calling range 3%... ara 4/7 th kerdisoume uncontested 32.000 enw 3/7 th exoume 47% equity g pot 500.000, ara exoume 4/7*32.000+3/7*47%*500.000=18.000+100.000=118.000 den kserw mhpws exw kanei kapou lathos alla an einai swsto tote mallon den einai swsto t 3bet...

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foustouki έγραψε: set mining???lol!diafwnw k me ta tria velakia. [/quote:2oukaonu] Σοβαρα? Δηλαδη για να καταλαβω τι line θα ακοθουθησεις αν 1)Το flop ειναι ΑΚ4 Α98 κλπ?Δεν εισαι check fold εκει? 2)Αν το flop ειναι 789 η 5ΤJ κλπ τι θα κανεις? Και check-shove να κανεις call μονο απο καλυτερα φυλλα θα φας. Κανω καπου λαθος?Θα κανεις κατι αλλο στα παραπανω η σε παρομοια flop?[/quote:2oukaonu] foustouki an exei AK,AQ,AJ o villain th valei ena akoma bet st flop k to raise mas den th nai kako gt polu apla th profulaksei t equity mas stin partida + mporei na paroume call apo JJ,10s se xamilo board..vs AA,KK opws les k esu etsi k alliws th ta vazame opote de xanoume tpt..egw auti ti stratigiki ti thewrw arketa kaluteri opws eipa apo to 3bet gt polu apla se 4bet p einai polu pithano kanoume call me varia kardia k parakalame g AK..